tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458658945502484148.post5677479574224381680..comments2023-03-31T02:47:04.827-07:00Comments on FLDS View: How to "SAVE" an FLDS girlPliggyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13093939505833710898noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458658945502484148.post-18581656105988923372008-09-10T16:39:00.000-07:002008-09-10T16:39:00.000-07:00Allen this is Mother, just wanted to clarify; the...Allen this is Mother, just wanted to clarify; the state of AZ. did not give custody of Fawn to Carl and Joni. They knew that Flora still had her and even though there was a restraining order against her they did nothing about it. By the way the restraining order was put in place through the court appointed AD LITEM This is why I fell that the state gave Fawn to Flora.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00558302927651238190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458658945502484148.post-36016987301096515502008-09-05T21:06:00.000-07:002008-09-05T21:06:00.000-07:00dear Esther. I pray for your Fawn every day. I hop...dear Esther. I pray for your Fawn every day. I hope heavenly father can help to give her peace in her heart so she can know and understand she has been and always will be loved by her family who only want what's best for her. I hope (really do hope) Carl and Joni wont have problems with their kids cause when you mess with others you never know what you will get for yours. And for you must know you have an adorable son named Allen who loves you very much and always remembers there's no place like home and like family. Its a blessing for me to have found him. Congratulations on the good work raising him. You must give me the secret recipe one of these days so my kids turn out as good as him. <BR/>With love<BR/>MaayanYohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00901569393138497258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458658945502484148.post-58808134096643849452008-09-02T18:51:00.000-07:002008-09-02T18:51:00.000-07:00Its so sad, I wish I could get to know Fawn, tell ...Its so sad, I wish I could get to know Fawn, tell her the uglyness of this "outside world" and the good life she could have....................... and i am not, never been or a wanna be flds!!!!!!!Yohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00901569393138497258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458658945502484148.post-34373937015274117122008-09-02T18:48:00.000-07:002008-09-02T18:48:00.000-07:00Are you saying that CPS gave Carl and Joni custody...Are you saying that CPS gave Carl and Joni custody? I thought you told me they never did. I will fix the "let" part.Pliggyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13093939505833710898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458658945502484148.post-1953901652353448062008-09-02T18:43:00.000-07:002008-09-02T18:43:00.000-07:00Mother, I LOVE YOU SO!!!!!I just sent her 2k to ge...Mother, I LOVE YOU SO!!!!!<BR/><BR/>I just sent her 2k to get a car of her own, and she does call me every couple of weeks.Pliggyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13093939505833710898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458658945502484148.post-88056421022643523162008-09-01T19:19:00.000-07:002008-09-01T19:19:00.000-07:00Hi Al, This is Mother, your article about Fawn hit...Hi Al, This is Mother, your article about Fawn hit it on the head. It was in a nut shell but everything you said was and is true. What you do not know is the many hours of tears after the CPS let Carl and Joni take Fawn. We tried and tried to contact her but we were told by C. and J. that they were the only ones that could contact her and that she was under 24 hour protective watch with an advocate group. We found out later that she had been with Carl and Joni all of the time. Fawn was kidnapped in January I did not see her again until the next December. When I saw her again my innocent girl was gone and her place was a very disturbed and unhappy young woman. My prayers for her will never cease. I love her so. Esther B. HolmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458658945502484148.post-90475670330882997512008-08-28T14:48:00.000-07:002008-08-28T14:48:00.000-07:00Fawn B,Believe me, nobody wants to know your lies,...Fawn B,<BR/>Believe me, nobody wants to know your lies, cause you said a BUNCH of lies, and we all know it. I guess you are having lots of fun playing around without getting married first huh??? Flora is a manipulator, and Holm, im sooo sad for you........... alone, and worse, unrespectful to your parents.......... do you know the commandments? do you know there are 10? do you know what it says about mother and father?? GUESS NOT!!!Yohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00901569393138497258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458658945502484148.post-25359465000948352272008-08-28T05:21:00.000-07:002008-08-28T05:21:00.000-07:00And Fawn was no longer in state control because sh...And Fawn was no longer in state control because she RAN AWAY with your daughter.Pliggyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13093939505833710898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458658945502484148.post-2635157665355167992008-08-27T19:37:00.000-07:002008-08-27T19:37:00.000-07:00Joni, you are right, it IS SAD. I was there and sa...Joni, you are right, it IS SAD. <BR/><BR/>I was there and saw you guys huddling with Flora and I almost wanted to cry. Not even much more than saying hello to my parents. And then Carl LIED in an affidavit about two of our sisters. Your bitterness was and is very, very, sad indeed, and something I will never understand.<BR/><BR/>I was there for all but one hearing, I was there with my wife and little girl at one of the hearings and I wanted you guys to see, but no. You wanted to be my fathers enemy.<BR/><BR/>I was there when CPS came and interviewed all of the my sisters still at my fathers home. They dropped the charges of abuse, and the only one they held on to was the "threat" of marriage, because Carl John LIED about his sisters. <BR/><BR/>I was there when they realized that NOT ONE of Fawns older sisters MORE THAN A DOZEN, was married under any pressure or under 18. <BR/><BR/>Yes the younger one was 15 when she married the 18 year old, but she didn't have her child until she was 18. And I have another sister who is now 18 and still unmarried, among several others. The point would be what? She got married because she WANTED to. ALL of my sisters are happy, except perhaps Fawn. I just sent her some funds to help her buy a car of her own. <BR/><BR/>The girls were gone for how long? Without any money? Calling you but not telling you where they were? Showing up in Sandy without a car?<BR/><BR/>Yea right.<BR/><BR/>Your game was about as hidden as the full moon.<BR/><BR/>I wish you guys all the best, but listening to you on Nancy Disgrace, and hearing your desire to see the children in Texas tortured, was absolutely, sickeningly, sad to me.Pliggyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13093939505833710898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458658945502484148.post-52673834728876162292008-08-27T07:47:00.000-07:002008-08-27T07:47:00.000-07:00This is sad. Even Alan (Al) doesn't no the truth ....This is sad. Even Alan (Al) doesn't no the truth . He was only there at the very first hearing. I have the motion from the judge,the point to that would be what? Let me make it clear the only reason the charge's got dropped,was because Fawn was no longer in State control. Alan also didn,t make it clear that the sister who was married,was also underage.(yes she is happy and very lucky ) The girls didn,t have a car,money or what ever he thinks that they had.Alan does not no the whole story. Alan take care of yourself first and your problems, but please stop telling about thing you don,t no !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458658945502484148.post-16817473051471767322008-08-26T21:46:00.000-07:002008-08-26T21:46:00.000-07:00Howdy Fawn,I am sure you would be glad to tell us,...Howdy Fawn,<BR/><BR/>I am sure you would be glad to tell us, we're all ears! <BR/><BR/>Who gave you the money if it wasn't Flora? Was it Joni? Where did you go? Which part is wrong?Pliggyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13093939505833710898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458658945502484148.post-52308818173652405722008-08-26T17:51:00.000-07:002008-08-26T17:51:00.000-07:00Pliggy, This is Fawn B. If you are going to tell m...Pliggy, <BR/>This is Fawn B. If you are going to tell my story try to get the facts straight! I was there And I know thats not what happened some where ever your getting you facts, you may want to have proof that thats what really happened!<BR/> Have a great lifeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458658945502484148.post-50144264431226891512008-08-24T21:10:00.000-07:002008-08-24T21:10:00.000-07:00Do you still want a copy of the motion? I don't ha...Do you still want a copy of the motion? I don't have it, but I might be able to get it when I get back to Phoenix.Pliggyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13093939505833710898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458658945502484148.post-66796855414089237672008-08-24T20:18:00.000-07:002008-08-24T20:18:00.000-07:00Oh, from the same article on Flora's site:"Jessop’...Oh, from the same article on Flora's site:<BR/><BR/>"Jessop’s efforts to help the girls, aided by a group of expolygamist wives who call themselves Tapestry Against Polygamy, comes at considerable risk. She could face charges of kidnapping, or at least custodial interference."Pliggyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13093939505833710898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458658945502484148.post-2654344912580055502008-08-24T20:05:00.000-07:002008-08-24T20:05:00.000-07:00ztg, no they were "rescuers"kbp,The Game of Flora ...ztg, no they were "rescuers"<BR/><BR/>kbp,<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4188/is_20040302/ai_n11440603" REL="nofollow">The Game of Flora and Joni's</A><BR/>"A few days before the girls were reported missing, a Maricopa County judge issued a restraining order against Jessop that would have kept her from contacting the girls."<BR/><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.childpro.org/2004%20media/2004%20media%2012.htm" REL="nofollow">from Flora's own site:</A><BR/>"That case, however, sparked an anti-Jessop backlash. The girls ran away from their foster home after a judge, at the request of Holm's parents, ordered Jessop to sever contact with the two girls."Pliggyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13093939505833710898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458658945502484148.post-30859539287625273962008-08-24T19:08:00.000-07:002008-08-24T19:08:00.000-07:00Isn't the predominate Western culture interesting?...Isn't the predominate Western culture interesting?<BR/><BR/>If a young woman likes to party, drink, etc., she is acting under her own free will and will be lauded. Geez, girl's just wanna have fun!<BR/><BR/>However, if a young woman prefers marriage and children, she is "brainwashed" and will be pitied - or maybe even "rescued" "for her own good" as has happened to poor Merrianne.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for sharing, Al. I hope this will help open some eyes.Disciplehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07869409191010505307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458658945502484148.post-41174569655206636442008-08-24T15:05:00.000-07:002008-08-24T15:05:00.000-07:00Yes!!!!!Yes!!!!!yutthehayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15845142960361353691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458658945502484148.post-87443011445646134852008-08-24T14:09:00.000-07:002008-08-24T14:09:00.000-07:00Thanks Pliggy,A good read here today."the judge si...Thanks Pliggy,<BR/><BR/>A good read here today.<BR/><BR/><I>"the judge signed that, she also signed a motion for FLORA JESSOP to have NO FURTHER CONTACT with the girl"</I><BR/><BR/>Can we get a copy of that motion?kbphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10028058155481155730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458658945502484148.post-58129656901379200122008-08-24T09:13:00.000-07:002008-08-24T09:13:00.000-07:00So then... Flora Jessop and Mike Watkiss are kidna...So then... Flora Jessop and Mike Watkiss are kidnappers.S931Coderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17609807805714986516noreply@blogger.com